tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26895116.post7830206370700655538..comments2023-05-22T04:28:21.810-05:00Comments on The Why Man: A Waldensian Adventure: Fleeing to Rennie's HillPastor Philhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07344719487413688550noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26895116.post-28650811578770208382007-01-12T07:34:00.000-05:002007-01-12T07:34:00.000-05:00I know what you mean. I write for others too. Th...I know what you mean. I write for others too. That is a big reason for showing grace as I do it.Pastor Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07344719487413688550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26895116.post-18164280157384615222007-01-12T05:59:00.000-05:002007-01-12T05:59:00.000-05:00Yeah. I could chose to 'show' grace too, but it wo...Yeah. I could chose to 'show' grace too, but it would be along time before I could have peace with it in my heart. It took me years, and I still see the ramifications it had on not me, but man others, and I still ask, "Why?"Webb Klinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09686751662694590781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26895116.post-19394989252466352772007-01-11T23:35:00.000-05:002007-01-11T23:35:00.000-05:00Well, that does give me a sense for how people wil...Well, that does give me a sense for how people will react to the story. :-)<br /><br />Thanks MikePastor Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07344719487413688550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26895116.post-15113081776979802102007-01-11T22:57:00.000-05:002007-01-11T22:57:00.000-05:00dude i was all in a panic and a little pissed unti...dude i was all in a panic and a little pissed until i read the end where you say all this happened. i was like, "dude, leave the guy alone you have already thrown him out"<br /><br />good luck on the book man.Mike Murrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17953216797987615864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26895116.post-16532455676396808102007-01-11T22:52:00.000-05:002007-01-11T22:52:00.000-05:00It doesn't take much digging to find the name of t...It doesn't take much digging to find the name of the church. I just choose to show grace, because "to the merciful God will show Himself as merciful."Pastor Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07344719487413688550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26895116.post-3792967988193571142007-01-11T20:18:00.000-05:002007-01-11T20:18:00.000-05:00More grace than I'd givem, partner.
Scalawags, I...More grace than I'd givem, partner. <br /><br />Scalawags, I tell ya. Yeah, God loves 'em. He loved the Pharisees too, but he wasn't afraid to put them in their place, either. <br /><br />Turn your cheek, shake the dust, <br />The works of their hands, <br />It's all a bust.Webb Klinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09686751662694590781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26895116.post-79598887271083241722007-01-11T17:15:00.000-05:002007-01-11T17:15:00.000-05:00Actually I named it initially when I posted the qu...Actually I named it initially when I posted the quote, then realized what I did and had to go back and fix it. It was not that I wanted to name them, but simply forgot, and had to backtrack. Perhaps forgetting was a good sign in itself.Pastor Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07344719487413688550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26895116.post-66137207748350451792007-01-11T16:49:00.000-05:002007-01-11T16:49:00.000-05:00I totally agree.
Maybe my thoughts were a little ...I totally agree.<br /><br />Maybe my thoughts were a little muddled in my attempt to avoid directly naming the denomination, since I noticed you gracefully avoided that in your post.<br /><br />or maybe I'm just confused and my brain hurts...Mariekehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09116558356434794689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26895116.post-65757444895441159792007-01-11T15:05:00.000-05:002007-01-11T15:05:00.000-05:00We have to remember that a church is not a denomin...We have to remember that a church is not a denomination, and even a denominaiton is not the leadership who run that denomination, but the fellowship of all the churches that make it up. So even the most tweaked leadership is part of a good church.<br /><br />So methinks.Pastor Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07344719487413688550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26895116.post-72743548309653397902007-01-11T14:18:00.000-05:002007-01-11T14:18:00.000-05:00I have to say, I am pretty impressed with how well...I have to say, I am pretty impressed with how well you're balancing on that tightrope. I can't imagine being in your position (and sometimes it scares me a little to be a part of the denomination that caused all this), but you seem to have come to a place where you can look back and see that God had a purpose in all this.<br /><br />I'm not directly related to the situation and it makes ME mad for you sometimes. But I have to remember that denominations are made of people, and people do mean and stupid things sometimes. I have to give the denomination grace as well, and recognize that while mistakes may be made (even big ones), I shouldn't throw out the baby with the bathwater.<br /><br />I can't imagine what it must be like for pastors within the denomination who are more "on the edge" in their practices! <br /><br />Also, as far as the actual story is concerned, I love that your church is so committed to what God's called you to do and to encouraging and supporting each other and that vision.<br /><br />I believe that God's going to do a lot more through your church now that you don't have the ties that got broken.Mariekehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09116558356434794689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26895116.post-10329463914989351102007-01-11T12:27:00.000-05:002007-01-11T12:27:00.000-05:00The balance between retelling a story which has po...The balance between retelling a story which has potential for helping people who have been through the same stuff, and retelling it with a "twist of bitter" is the paradoxical tightrope of the Christian walk.<br /><br />I find myself struggling with that tension as I write through this stuff, but the more I write the better I get at not being angry it seems.Pastor Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07344719487413688550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26895116.post-55165522117386614962007-01-11T11:49:00.000-05:002007-01-11T11:49:00.000-05:00I've mentioned before that I had my own problems w...I've mentioned before that I had my own problems with a church and ended up practically fleeing from New Mexico to New Jersey and then collapsing spiritually and emotionally after getting here. At least I wasn't dealing with an entire denomination. In my fellowship (independent Christian Churches/Churches of Christ) there's no official denominational structure, so there's no one to come in and take over worship services. That's okay though. The people on the local level are often mean enough to make up for any lack of overbearing denominational leaders. Chuckle. No, I'm not as bitter as I may sound...not any more, anyway. I feel for you.Adam Gonnermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08975190849449996353noreply@blogger.com